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Lyn
Sep 20, 08 - 9:32 AM |
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Hi Sue, Would someone put me right on this one please? Some people use White spirit,some us Turpentine some use Thinners. What is the difference,is one safer than another or is it just personal choice.? What do you recommend to your pupils? Thanks in advance for any advice
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Tom.
Sep 20th, 2008 - 10:58 AM |
Hi Lyn, Myself, I use Odourless Thinners , ( the important word being ODOURLESS), and even then I keep the room well ventilated. I know Darrell uses baby oil for brush cleaning, but I personally prefer the thinners. I have never used White spirit or turpentine, and would not recommend them, but Sue or others will advise better. Hope this helps. Tom. |
negeltu
Sep 20th, 2008 - 2:48 PM |
Depends on the person. My g/f only uses turps for her glazes and the such. She is very much a traditional artist in some ways. She constantly worries about archival qualities of her materials. I only use odorless mineral spirits. I just can't tolerate the smell of turp. Use very good ventilation with both. |
Jerry
Sep 20th, 2008 - 7:06 PM |
I use a "virtually" odorless spirit, available in Homebase, to clean the Brushes, but I then dip them in Baby Oil, and work this into the bristles. Its wonderful for keeping the bristles in good shape, especially if they are left unused for a while |
Bryan Coates
Sep 20th, 2008 - 7:27 PM |
Hi You may want to try Zest It. This has a lovely smell of oranges. If you do a Google search you will get all the information. Bryan |
Liz A
Sep 22nd, 2008 - 7:55 PM |
Hi I've just started a local 'traditional' oil painting class and in this we use turps for the base coats and linseed oil for the over painting and a mixture of the two for the in-between coats. Then we use cheap white spirit for washing the brushes in, but I dont think this is recommended for use in the actual painting. From what I recall (I have an awful memory), turps is used simply to thin the paint whereas the linseed oil not only thins it but also gives a richer colour and more glaze to the finished painting instead of it being matt. But I think using just linseed oil from start to finish means potential cracking down the line (many years) I seem to recall, although could be wrong, hence the reason to use both during the course of the painting. Personally I like the smell of turps although I do feel a bit dizzy towards the end of the lessons!! I have also used my bob ross odourless thinner on other paintings and I think its all a matter of personal choice to be honest. what each painting will look like in 100 years I dont know and dont really care either but if you want something to pass down the family then its probably wise to follow the traditional mediums. |
From the shores of Loch Leven
Sep 25th, 2008 - 6:04 PM |
Hi Lyn and welcome to the forum. I have used odourless thinners, baby oil and low odour white spirit. The thinners were a branded name, quite expensive and actually did have a smell. The baby oil, in my opinion is a good cleaner but it takes an age to beat it out of the brush so that you can change colour and carry on painting - but it's good if you have several brushes of the same size. just give them one clean up after the painting session is finished. I now use low odour white spirit, available from B&Q, Homebase etc. The smell is very, very minimal - but my brush cleaning area in classes is either in another room or well, well away from our painting area. But..............baby oil is one of the best brush conditioners I have come across so far. As Jerry says, once you've finished your painting for the day, clean your brushes in thinners/spirits/turps or whatever, then work a little baby oil through the bristles. it works especially well on the larger landscape brushes and the liner brushes. |
From the shores of Loch Leven
Sep 25th, 2008 - 6:08 PM |
..............oh, forgot to say, I've heard nothing but good about the product Zest It, which Bryan mentions. In fact, one of the first Bob Ross Certified Instructors in the UK was telling me that you don't need to use it neat, you can actually mix some in with your normal thinners/white spirits/turps - just to gve it a fresh orangy fragrance. I haven't tried this myself so i don't know if it works. |