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Chris (American)
Sep 16, 08 - 9:39 AM |
I'm a guest in Thailand
One thing I can never forget is that I'm a guest in this country. Like most of us, I get out of hand sometimes, but I always attempt to smile throughout and not offend my hosts too deeply. Sometimes I do; and if I do, I do my best to apologize. Down here in Pattaya, there is a Friday dart league that has been going on for some 20 years. They do not allow Thai men to play. Never have. I and several more do not play in this league because of its racist policies. I personally never had a problem with paying 300 baht up front for a night of darts, but I also realize that many, many Thais don't make that much in a day. People, even good people, forget this economic reality. Now I've been alerted that somebody wants to discount dart supplies to, basically, only foreigners who can more easily afford these items than most Thais. And they want, of course, to have a Farang in charge of enforcing this gift to the well-to-do. (In US politics, this is a Republican platform.) I find that totally discriminatory. I find it rude and I find it racist. I think the authors of this idea have forgotten the fact that they are also guests in Thailand and I urge a LOT more cultural consideration in any further totally STUPID proposals like this. |
Johnny
 Sep 17th, 2008 - 3:34 AM |
Re: I'm a guest in Thailand
Darts Forum Ground Rules. This is a darts forum where we talk about darts. NOT ALLOWED - personal attacks - racist comments - politics - religion. Chris introduces a sensitive subject but it concerns darts. I have just removed two posts violating the above NOT ALLOWED. This free service forum does not allow me to edit portions of a post only to remove the entire post. Chris I'll let you slide this time with the political comment or I would have to remove you post. The two following posts definitely violated personal attacks & racist comments - NOT ALLOWED. You may re-post but remember the rules. I will not waste any more beer drinking time editing posts. I hope that this thread will continue in a civil manner. If not I will remove it. - - Johnny |
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Johnny
Sep 17th, 2008 - 3:40 AM |
Re: I'm a guest in Thailand
Chris - of the three examples you site I was aware of the first - Pattaya has what I believe is called a Farang League the allows Thai women to play but not Thai men. News to me about someone offering discounted dart supplies to only foreigners. Fair enough examples of discrimination. But it's hardly fair to include you second example. YOU WROTE (I personally never had a problem with paying 300 baht up front for a night of darts, but I also realize that many, many Thais don't make that much in a day. People, even good people, forget this economic reality.) But are you forgetting the economic reality? Thai land owners can lease / rent businesses in tourist and expat areas for a higher price. Thais and or foreigners that run these businesses have a higher overhead and operating cost and have to charge more as a result. From the get-go - bars set up to attract foreigners exclude Thais earning minimum wage. If this is discrimination - then who is guilty - the landlord or the business operator? If your - "paying 300 baht up front for a night of darts" - is referring to Bangkok's Moonshine Pub Knockout it's only fair to say that the 300 Baht is not a registration fee but 300 Baht that goes toward your bar bill in an event that has three trophies, various raffle prizes and a great spread of food. 300 Baht buy-in for a night of darts competition that gets you 300 Baht worth of drinks, a great food spread, and a chance at trophies and raffle prizes. That's a great deal buy anyone's standard. Keep in mind that the EGAT (Electricity Generating Authority of Thailand) Darts Open Events charge a 300 Baht per person per each event for a chance at the prize and that does not include your drinks and food. Yes, many players wouldn't be able to afford this and are totally sponsored or partly subsidized by their darts clubs where they are employed in large businesses. But if you're not part of one of these darts clubs the cost to compete is on you as an individual. Some cannot afford to compete. Is this discrimination? No it's economic reality. |
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HARRY
Sep 18th, 2008 - 12:41 AM |
Re: I'm a guest in Thailand
You now have me all confused  My thoughts were that Owners purchased bars,to register as a Charity Now what am I to do knowing that my money over the bar is not going to help the poor If anyone knows of one of these bars that is in the bussiness to loose money,please give me a call.I shall be the first to become a regular there If the 300 baht thing is aimed at the Moonshine Knockout,I for one am amazed,for 300 baht I get free buffet(more than enough for everyone,and an excellent spread)A chance of winning a trophy(allthough in my case a small chance)A chance of winning a raffle prize(in most cases a bottle of wine,that costs more than 300baht)And at the end of the night when I pay my check bill 300baht deducted from the total.Now if that isnt value for money what is?
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