One of the originators of the Physical Evolution Theory, Dr. A. R. Wallace was the first to strike down the Social Evolution Theory. He rightly affirmed that:

"The Veda admittedly the oldest book in the library of mankind contains the essential teachings of the most advanced religious thinkers and is a vast system of religious teachings which are pure and lofty."

Theology is a complete waste of time. One could spend an entire life rising through the ranks of a clergy, and possess no useful knowledge at all.

"If all the religions of the world were in harmony with each other there would have been one religion but since they all oppose each other there is one true religion." Swami Dayanand

Or, far far far more likely, no true religion.

If there is "no true religion", how would we know which ones are false?

If 2999 out of 3000 must be false because they contradict each other, doesn’t mean there’s one true one. Far more likely that they’re all false.

So you're saying one wise man now, isn't enough to convince you there were many before him?

"I‘m convinced that everything has come down to us from the banks of the Ganges, astronomy, astrology, metempsychosis, etc. It doesn’t behoove us, who were only savages and barbarians when these Indian people were civilized & learned, to dispute their antiquity." Voltaire

Well, there’s no logical reason to believe anyone had any kind of supernatural origin.

Well, if you're full of doubt what kind of "logical reason" can that be?


"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." Bertrand Russell

You’re confusing doubt with credulity

So you doubt your faith?

I do not belong to either of those two groups (stupid/intelligent).

"Philosophy and reason will remain the most beautiful sanctuary they have always been for the select few." Albert Einstein

I miss Mr Pritchett deeply. He was a shining beacon in the darkness.

Such as the first ape was to the first human?

More like visa versa.

How could it be, when the human came after the ape?

That would be why.

It wouldn't work if humans came before the ape, that would be silly.

Your putting the cart before the horse.

I don't give a ****!

It's your theory deal with it.

For the wise, evolution is a breach of natural laws!

You do know the difference between just a theory and a scientific theory?

Makes no difference, all I've to know is that both must conform to the immutable laws of nature.

But you don't know what the laws of nature are. And cannot logically know what they are.
Logic can't give you certainty. Newtons model 'laws of nature' can be refuted by a single contrary result.

Why would they be immutable? Most would be set different by symmetry breaking.

If it weren't immutable you'll be excreting via another opening.

Then tell me what trait I share with my Great Great Grandmother.

The trait of ignorance, lacking the understanding of natural laws.

So... demonstrated then. You cannot tell me the answer to my question.

Not omniscient.

Logically in an ultimate logical sense, no one can know what those rules are. Godel's incompleteness blocks the path. So science has its best guesses so far.

What do you've on the subject of matter


And for the soul

If not, go bury your head in the sand and continue a life full of doubt.

"The trouble with the world the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." Bertrand Russell

Absolute gibberish. Lots of assertions with absolutely no supporting evidence. Many words but absolutely nothing of value stated.

Obviously, the conclusion of one full of doubt!

"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt." Bertrand Russell

more meaningless words. Come back to me when you have....well....anything ....

You're the one doing the coming back Paul.

Perhaps, a fascination with "meaningless words."

You need to slow down and think.

One of the originators of the Physical Evolution Theory, Dr. A. R. Wallace was the first to strike down the Social Evolution Theory. He rightly affirmed that:

"The Veda admittedly the oldest book in the library of mankind contains the essential teachings of the most advanced religious thinkers and is a vast system of religious teachings which are pure and lofty."

Dr who? Never heard of them. And its not the oldest book....2 lies in one post....you going for a record or something?

Never heard of it? Go look for the book and educate yourself or remain one full of doubt.

In his book "Social Environment and Moral Progress".
"In the earliest records which have come down to us from the past, we find ample indications that accepted standard of morality and the conduct resulting from these were in no degree inferior to those which prevail today,

Just going to ignore the fact that you lied then eh? Just going to keep posting random quotes.....you truly are clueless.

Another 'lie'?
He further wrote in "Social Environment and Moral Progress," strongly refuting the social and moral evolution theory:
"In the earliest records which have come down to us from the past, we find ample indications that accepted standard of morality and the conduct resulting from these were in no degree inferior to those which prevail today, though in some respects, they were different from ours. The wonderful collection of hymns known as the Vedas are a vast system of religious teachings as pure and lofty as those of the finest portions of the Hebrew Scriptures. Its authors were fully our equals in their conception of the universe and the Deity expressed in the finest poetic language."

Here's where all westerner scholars fit in:
"If there should be a conference among the most imaginative minds they will agree that almost all institutions of learning are only nurseries of prejudice, corruption, barbarism, and pedantry." Anon

oh yay....some more meaningless words thrown together to prove absolutely nothing.

you are just putting random quotes out. Im still waiting for your evidence that your chosen religion is the right one... its very telling that all you can do is spout nonsense.

My "chosen religion" has no no cure for a fool, Paul, so don't expect me to do it.

"Only the wisest and the stupidest of men never change." Confucius

As I thought....absolutely nothing. More fairytale nonsense.

See thats where you are wrong. I am open to changing....if someone presents me with actual evidence. It just seems nobody has any evidence other than their feelings. If you wouldn't change your mind then im afraid you are the only one in the wrong here.

You don't understand the quote my friend.
It is good that you're open to change, it would mean you don't consider yourself the "stupidest".

But there is no need for the "wisest" to be open to change. That's already the ultimate!

So let me get this right....I should be open to change but you don't need to? Wow....arrogance personified

its arrogance. Pure and simple. I have no problem discussing religion with someone open minded. You are not that person. I have no desire to communicate with you further. You are beyond hope. A complete list cause and I have nothing further to say to you.