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The terror of constant brainwashing indeed spells hopelessness for billions.
A static intellect is when predetermination takes the place of honest inquiry and truth is suppressed. The culprit is misguided religion which leads to fanaticism, barbarism and superstition. This form of credulity is the catalyst of existing adverse and prejudicial conditions that have plagued mankind for nearly 5,000 years.

"When the time of destruction is at hand the intellect becomes perverted." Vridha Chan. 16:17.

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Can a fool, fool God? - Feb 08, 2002
What Baseball-club owner would pay his worst ball-player the same money as his best? Since he is the owner he can do anything and even through compassion make such a reward. But let's measure the disadvantages of such a measure, his club would go bankrupt because his worst players would never strive to be better while his best players would do less since it makes no sense to be the best. Baseball will become non-competitive and the millions who would be deprived of its entertainment will no longer support it, not to mention the thousands that will be affected by employment. If there were such an owner who lacks such business sense, he would be called a fool, won't he?

 A fool has no value for time or knowledge and so he remains a fool all his life. It certainly requires no effort to be a fool and in the end he/she repents for being a fool and gains salvation. On the other hand, a wise man values his time and works diligently and strenuously daily all his life, in his efforts through austerity and abstinence to attain higher wisdom also gains salvation.

Now I ask what would we call the 'All-powerful' God of the Torah, Bible, Qur'an, Puranas, Zend Avesta, Guru Grantha, and all that other false dogmas that can do anything, who gives the same reward of heaven to both a fool and a wise man? To an intelligent soul, he is not only mortal like the Ball-club owner but even more foolish. In reality, a fool who follows a false dogma is only fooling him/herself. 
                                                                 
                         Redemption can only be a fool's passport to a fool's paradise.

                                                      In search of the One True Religion


                                        "No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth." Plato

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Atheism vs Theism

Steve Morgan - άθεος or átheos
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Atheism vs Theism

Feb 19 2024
Vijai Singh
Pay attention!
“Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind.” Einstein

"We owe a lot to Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made." Einstein

Perry Hoffman
Pay attention!
"As I've said before, science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind. Hence it is absurd for religion to proscribe Galileo or Darwin or other scientists." Einstein
"The Word of God cannot exist in any written or human language." Thomas Paine

Vijai Singh
Hey stupid, Christians say I will be burning in hell for all eternity for rejecting their God. I'm asking you for the umpteen time what will happen to me for rejecting the Deist God.

Perry Hoffman
I do not believe in hell. As long as a person acts properly, that person will not be punished for the mistaken ideas. The only consequence is that he/she will not understand about God. We can only judge a man by his works. The future happiness of man depends on good works alone.

Vijai Singh
Well, if there is no hell, there can't be a heaven, so why like a parasite you want me to follow the path of Deism?

Perry Hoffman
Where did I mention anything about heaven, stupid?

“But all other arguments apart, the consciousness of existence is the only conceivable idea we can have of another life.” Thomas Paine

Isn’t the parasite those imposing on mankind the vedas, books pretending to be revelation?

Vijai Singh
Glad you brought up!
What happens to the stupid after this life?

The Vedas answer the question of what happens to us after this life.
Parasites are those who don't have an answer while bragging of how great their God is.

Perry Hoffman
Parasites are those who don't have proof yet boasts of their holy book. I know you believe in the soul but can you prove it?

Deism is the only religion out there that has demonstrated the existence of the afterlife, and the immortality of the soul.

Vijai Singh
Here is my proof ******* - http://vjsingh.info
Where is yours?

Afterlife?
How will you be able convince anyone to accept Deism if you don't know what happens to the stupid in afterlife?

Perry Hoffman
That's not proof, *******!
I prefer visible facts to a book, that any imposter might make. The fact that caterpillars transform into a splendid butterfly proves that consciousness is not dependent on the same form or matter.

Afterlife? The stupid will become enlightened.

Vijai Singh
Where is yours?

"Afterlife? The stupid will become enlightened."
So why the hurry to convert to Deism in this life?

Perry Hoffman
No hurry. I view it academically. You may believe (for example) that 2+2=5, not 4. You may even believe that the earth is flat. There is no moral ill in believing that the earth is flat. However, it is clearly mistaken from an academic point of view. You can't call yourself wise.

Vijai Singh
"You can't call yourself wise."
How can a fool know who is wise?
I may not be wise, but I know who is - http://vjsingh.info/dayanan.html
"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." Plato

Perry Hoffman
I know that the very wise man Paine and the wise in all ages wisely say, that God has revealed to our senses his Almighty power and wisdom in the creation.

"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." Plato

Vijai Singh
"God has revealed to our senses"
How come you don't know who first taught us to read, write and count?

Here is another quote a fool can use.
"It's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled." Mark Twain

Perry Hoffman
I've already answered this several times. They taught themselves. You were fooled into believing vedas are the word of God.

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled." Twain

"The Word of God cannot exist in any written or human language." Paine

Vijai Singh
"They taught themselves."
Akbar of India proved that wrong. He had a dozen babies strictly confined to one area. They were guarded, fed and taken care of with all communications strictly prohibited. As adults they couldn't speak.

Perry Hoffman
I dispute that. It’s a premise that humans are so smart they must have and would develop. I think if you took a group of humans and put them in the wild, even as a baby, provided they survived, then they would develop some form of language on their own.

Vijai Singh
What's new? You've been disputing everything sensible so far.
Exactly the stance of an idiot, " I think" and "provided they survived".

Perry Hoffman
Something tells me it would be sensible to listen to a genius and not a *******!
“It is absurd for religion to proscribe Galileo or Darwin or other scientists.” Albert Einstein
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